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Oink Pig
19-02-2006, 17:09
G'day
I heard that someone from B.O.P. on waihi beach was found dead, cause of death was suspected to be a paintball to the head, they did say it was unconfirmed but that was what they had beleived was the case, as the paintball gun has also been confiscated
Source : National Radio
does anyone else know about this?
Cheers
Oink
Shit i hope it's not a paintball gun :cry:
What the fuck?
Paintball to the head is not going to kill someone unless it busts their windpipe, goes down their throat or direct into the eye, or there is some pre-existing health condition.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/bulletins/radionz/200602191708/1cf7eddf
Police say Waihi man may have been shot by paintball gun
Posted at 5:08pm on 19 Feb 2006
The police investigating the death of a man at Waihi Beach in the Bay of Plenty believe he may have been hit by a paintball gun pellet.
The man was found lying on Fyfe Road in the township early this morning after residents reported a disturbance.
He has not yet been formally identified, but police believe he was from Hamilton.
Senior Sergeant Rex Knight says the man had an injury to the back of his head and a homicide inquiry is underway.
Snr Sgt Knight says there were reports of a gas-operated paintball gun being fired before the disturbance.
He says police have located and seized a paintball gun.
The man's body was removed from the scene late this afternoon and a postmortem will be held tomorrow.
Police have been going door-to-door as part of their enquiries.
Oink Pig
19-02-2006, 17:37
Hay i wasnt there, i was just reporting what was heard
although if they were hit on a nerve with a amped up gun it could cause harm, and as you said, whos to know they didnt have said pre existing health condition MikeE
anything fired may not have been a paintball.
I how for a fact that there are a range of sweets that have a similar size to paintballs (got annoyed with people stealing my tangy fruits, put a layer of paintballs on top, stopped the problem). it would not be unreasonable to expect a 'tangy fruit' type object fired out of an un-chronographed (ie hot) gun to do some serious damage.
Steven
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10369084
Police say 'some number' involved in Waihi man's death
19.02.06 1.00pm UPDATE
Police believe there was a number of people involved in an early morning incident at Waihi Beach, which has left one man dead.
Waihi Senior Sergeant Rex Knight said police were called at 2am after residents in Fyfe Street reported a disturbance.
When they arrived at the scene people were treating a man on the road with an injury to the back of his head.
Mr Knight said the ambulance was called, but the man -- believed to be in his early 30s -- died.
Team leader John Fraser, of police northern communications centre, said details still remained sketchy.
Inquiries were underway to identify the victim and his background, the cause of death, events leading up to the incident, and to establish witnesses.
Mr Fraser said the man was believed to be from out of town.
Additional police officers have been brought in from Waikato police.
Post mortem examination results were expected later today.
- NZPA
Please use your discretion when posting in this thread and talking to people about this topic. I'd hate to see an off hand comment misused by the media etc.
Also - nothing on tonites news headlines.. thats a good sign.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3577542a10,00.html
Homicide in sleepy beach town
19 February 2006
Police are investigating a homicide in the Bay of Plenty coastal settlement of Waihi Beach after a man died following an incident early this morning.
Police believe there was a number of people involved in the incident.
Waihi Senior Sergeant Rex Knight said police were called at 2am after residents in Fyfe Street reported a disturbance.
When they arrived at the scene people were treating a man on the road with an injury to the back of his head.
Mr Knight said the ambulance was called, but the man – believed to be in his early 30s – died.
Team leader John Fraser, of police northern communications centre, said details still remained sketchy.
Inquiries were under way to identify the victim and his background, the cause of death, events leading up to the incident, and to establish witnesses.
Mr Fraser said the man was believed to be from out of town.
Additional police officers have been brought in from Waikato police.
Post mortem examination results were expected later today.
we all take balls to the back of the head and the worse that happens is we lose a couple brain cells.
what is happening in the nz at the moment all this airgun/paintball guns in the news.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10369210
Paintball gun involved in fatal attack
20.02.06
By Simon O'Rourke
Residents of Fyfe Rd in Waihi Beach say they heard the muted sounds of a BB gun or air rifle and "blood-curdling" screams from a woman about 1.40 yesterday morning.
But they thought it was a domestic dispute and went back to sleep.
Hours later they woke to find a homicide investigation had been launched in their street.
Police cordons had been set up and a large blue tarpaulin covered the body of a man in his 30s, believed to be from Hamilton. Police said he had been hit by a paintball pellet.
For most of the day the dead man lay under cover on the left-hand side of the road while detectives and scientists scoured the area for evidence.
More than 20 numbered yellow police markers over a distance of 100m were used to map out items of interest on the street.
The Herald understands most of the markers were used to identify paint splotches, which Senior Sergeant Rex Knight of Thames said were consistent with a paintball gun that was part of their inquiries.
"That [gun] we believe was involved in the altercation but we don't think it was a causal link. It's all part of the mix. Basically we know that there was a fight - enough was going on for the police to be called. Clearly a paintball gun was involved."
The dead man had been hit by a paintball pellet, Mr Knight said.
The body had an injury to the back of the head, although it did not appear serious.
It was consistent with the skull striking the ground, and no weapon was being sought in relation to any blow to the head.
Shortly after police arrived in Fyfe Rd a number of people were seen standing around. It is believed two men were involved in a "pushing and shoving" exchange.
Mr Knight said there had been no parties in the street on Saturday night, but a Mardi Gras had taken place in town earlier in the evening.
Nobody had been arrested and it was unlikely that any charges would be laid until the results of a post-mortem examination were known. Mr Knight said this would take place in Auckland today.
It is understood a taxi driver saw the incident, but nobody at Waihi Taxis could be reached yesterday.
Danae Bernard and her partner, Darren Taylor, who live three doors away from where the drama unfolded, said they woke to hear the muffled sounds of a gun being fired in quick succession.
"I woke up about 1.30am and heard some arguing," Mr Taylor said. "I heard what I thought were four to five short little rounds being fired. It wasn't loud. It sounded like a BB gun."
Ms Bernard said: "I didn't think it would be as serious as this. I heard someone yell, 'Get off this property, I rent this property', then I heard, 'It's just like you to take it too far'."
There was a lot of screaming and swearing, she said.
"It's pretty scary. You get parties around here but not anything violent. Usually it's just people enjoying themselves. I was a little frightened when I first woke, but I'm not too worried now. I'm not going to move out of the area."
Another neighbour, Pam Moore, said she heard a woman's "blood-curdling" screams and a man's deep voice. She went back to sleep because hearing raised voices on the street on a Saturday night was not unusual.
From the sounds of it, the marker was not a contributing factor:
"That [gun] we believe was involved in the altercation but we don't think it was a causal link. It's all part of the mix. Basically we know that there was a fight - enough was going on for the police to be called. Clearly a paintball gun was involved."
Its like saying, well there was a stereo at the party, and there was an argument over the channels, but he wasn't killed by the stereo. Yet you can't see "Stereo kills man at party".
But the media are blowing it out of proportion, guys, especially if you are out that way and approached to give comment to the media, try to refrain from doing so - at least untill we have a full picture of what is going on.
I've heard through the grape vine that the official statement will be released this morning.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3577710a10,00.html
Waihi Beach death probe continues
20 February 2006
By MICHELLE QUIRKE and NZPA
Police believe several people were involved in a Waihi Beach incident that left a man dead.
Police were trying to formally identify the victim yesterday. Autopsy results are expected today.
Senior Sergeant Rex Knight said police were called at 2am yesterday after Fyfe Rd residents reported yelling and people "pushing and shoving" in the street.
When they arrived, people were treating a man on the road with an injury to the back of his head. An ambulance was called, but the man – believed in his early 30s – died.
"We don't know whether there was a weapon involved or whether it (injury) was consistent with a fall to the ground," Mr Knight said.
It is thought the man was visiting Waihi Beach for a family function. Police have been brought in from Waikato to help with the inquiry.
http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11964-5423372,00.html
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Waihi Murder Details 'Sketchy'
20/02/2006NewstalkZBPolice are beginning to get a better picture of what happened in the lead up to the death of a man at Waihi Beach.
The victim, believed to be in his 30s, was found lying on the road with a fatal head injury early yesterday.
Senior Sergeant Rex Knight says police believe there was some kind of altercation in Fyfe Road where he was found. He says a paint ball gun was fired during the incident, hitting the man.
A post mortem examination will take place today.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3578367a10,00.html
Paintball gun linked to Waihi Beach death
20 February 2006
A paintball gun has been linked to the death of a man in the Bay of Plenty seaside town of Waihi Beach.
The man, believed to be in his 30s from Hamilton, died early yesterday morning after residents near the town's surf lifesaving club heard screams and the muted sounds of a air gun.
The town had been tense after a mardi gras on Saturday night and locals said a group of young people from outside the area had been creating a disturbance but it was not serious.
Police said the dead man, whose name has yet to be released, had a head injury consistent with him falling onto the road but it did not appear to be serious.
Sergeant Rex Knight said a paintball gun was involved in the early morning fight which was heard by residents of Fyfe Street about 1.40am yesterday.
"We don't think it was a causal link. It's all part of the mix. Basically we know that there was a fight - enough was going on for the police to be called. Clearly a paintball gun was involved," Mr Knight told the New Zealand Herald.
He said no weapon was being sought in relation to any blow to the head.
A post-mortem examination was expected to be done on the body today. The man's body lay in the street for most of yesterday under a tarpaulin as police marked several paint splotches on the road, believed to be from the paint gun.
Darren Taylor, who lives with his partner Danae Bernard a few doors from where the drama unfolded, said they awoke to the dispute early in the morning and heard the muffled sounds of a gun being fired rapidly.
"I heard what I thought were four to five short little rounds being fired. It wasn't loud. It sounded like a BB gun," he said.
While the marker may not have been directly involved with the man's death, I think there is a point when incidents involving markers can reach "critical mass" in the eyes of the authorities. When/if it does (If it hasn't already), we can expect things to get a little harder for players in terms of owning equipment. I guess one advantage we have is that for the most part (Except for the mil-sim and replica markers), the police and the like have no issues distinguishing a marker from a real firearm.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3578367a10,00.html
Minor scuffle appears to have led to Waihi death
20 February 2006
The man who died in the small Bay of Plenty seaside town of Waihi Beach during the weekend was staying with friends and family after a wedding.
Police said it ended in tragedy early on Sunday morning when the Hamilton man died probably from an injury to the back of the head.
Police said today it appeared no one wanted to kill him and the incident was "a bloody tragedy" after a minor scuffle.
The man, in his 30s, probably fell and struck his head after a minor fight in Fyfe Street at the surf lifesaving club end of the town.
Police said his name was likely to be released later today and a post mortem examination was expected to give police an indication of how he died.
Sergeant Rex Knight said police believed he had died as a result of an injury to the back of the head. "That is crucial to our inquiry, how he actually got that."
He said the theory the man fell backwards and injured his head after he was hit during a minor scuffle was "pretty much on the mark?.
"We need to look at the circumstances of that scuffle, who was involved and if there was a causal link."
However, he said it was still a homicide inquiry and the death was unexplained.
Mr Knight said police were investigating the involvement of a paintball gun but that happened some time before the incident which led to the man's death and was probably not a big factor.
He said the Waihi Beach community had been "absolutely great?.
"We have been able to mop it up and get to a stage where hopefully by the end of the day we know where we are going," Mr Knight said.
No charges had yet been laid over the incident.
Well its good to see that the paintball issue was before the incident and does not look to be a contributing factor (as opposed to the NZ Heralds sensationalist headlines).
http://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=303044&catid=32
No Paint Ball Gun Link In Waihi Death
8:20 AM, 20 Feb 2006 Print this story
The police investigating the death of a man at Waihi Beach say he was shot at with a paintball gun but they do not believe this caused his death.
The man was found lying on Fyfe Road at Waihi Beach early yesterday morning with an injury to the back of his head.
The police had earlier been called to a scuffle involving four men.
Senior Sergeant Rex Knight says investigators believe they have spoken to most of the people in the area at the time.
He says there appears to be no link between the paint ball gun and the man's death.
© NewsRoom 2006
Much better...
http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3673282&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=
Autopsy to probe Waihi Beach death
20.02.2006
By Graham Skellern
A 32-year-old man was shot at with a paintball gun shortly before he lay dying on a Waihi Beach street following an early-morning scuffle with three other people.
The police launched a homicide inquiry, the first in the thriving coastal town for eight years, after the man - believed to be from Hamilton - died at the scene in Fyfe Rd early yesterday morning.
His body, which lay covered by a blue tarpaulin tent for much of the morning yesterday, was taken by a hearse mid-afternoon to Auckland for a post mortem examination to confirm the cause of death. This was expected to be under way by midday today.
He had suffered an injury to the back of his head and police hope to release his name today.
The police officer in charge, Waihi Senior Sergeant Rex Knight, said the man died in unusual circumstances and his team had already "cut out quite a number" of their inquiries.
The man was sleeping in his car outside his family's bach in Beach Rd when he was disturbed by some passers-by.
Earlier in the day he had been a guest at his cousin's wedding - the groom was a member of a well-known Waihi Beach family.
Mr Knight said it was suspected that the victim was shot at with a gas-operated paintball gun. He believed the gun was not a big factor in the death.
He said it appeared the man got out of his car about 2am and followed three people around the corner into Fyfe Rd.
There was pushing and shoving and enough noise for the neighbours to ring the police, said Mr Knight.
A woman was treating the man when the ambulance and police arrived.
He died soon after.
"We don't know whether the woman was involved in the scuffle," said Mr Knight.
He said paint was spread all over the road in the short distance between the dead man's car and where he was lying in Fyfe Rd.
The paintball gun was found at a property just off Beach Rd, and Mr Knight said there was an incident earlier in the night where people had been shot at with the gun.
During Saturday evening, Waihi Beach was alive to the sound of the Auckland-based Latin American band Kantuta and to the beat of the Mardi Gras carnival.
Thousands of people, many of them wearing colourful masks, jived on the main street to celebrate the upgrade of the Wilsons Rd shopping centre.
The next morning, the tightknit local community awoke to the terrible news of "an unfortunate death" on one of its quiet, hilly streets.
The previous homicide inquiry in the town was eight years ago when a man's body was found inside a caravan at a camping ground.
Seven police officers from within the Waikato region were sent to Waihi Beach yesterday to assist with the latest inquiry.
Fyfe Rd was closed off all day as the police completed their detailed examinations of the street and two properties nearby.
One Fyfe Rd resident, who did not want to be named, said she was woken by yelling and screaming.
"It was an awful noise - there was a woman's scream and a lower man's voice."
She saw the police and ambulance arrive and went back to sleep. "I didn't think anyone had died.
"It was unfortunate that something like this should happen after such a wonderful mardi gras during the day," she said.
Another resident said the area was not rough but he said the town was very busy because of the mardi gras.
He believed there was some tension created by a group of young people visiting from outside of town.
It was typical drink-related behaviour, he said.
"People are a bit shocked and disappointed it could happen at Waihi Beach," he said.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3578562a11,00.html
Group being talked to after Waihi death
20 February 2006
By TANE AIKMAN
Police are interviewing a group who clashed with a man moments before he died in Waihi Beach yesterday.
The Hamilton man, 33, whose name has not been released, approached people in a Fyfe Rd house because he was angry at being shot at with a paintball gun.
He had been in Waihi Beach to attend a wedding and was staying with friends.
People living in the street say they were woken up by yelling and screaming about 1.45am. Police arrived 15 minutes later.
Senior Sergeant Rex Knight, of Waihi police, said the man was hit by a shot from a paintball gun, but that did not cause his death. The man also had a serious injury to the back of his head, indicating he had fallen and hit his head on the road.
Today Mr Knight said a group of youths in their 20s were being interviewed. Some lived in the house the man had gone to, he said. No arrests had been made.
A street resident this morning said she had been told the man was angry that youths had been shooting people - including him - with paintball pellets.
"He went round to the house to sort it out," she said.
Mr Knight confirmed that a paintball gun had been fired at people earlier in the evening.
Police had seized the gun.
Yesterday there were splotches on the street from what appeared to be paintball pellets.
Resident Trish Tottle said that about 1.45am she heard "someone walking up the road yelling".
"It sounded like he was smacking something metallic on the road.
"He went up to the house and yelled 'get out of the house'. They (the residents) came outside and there was a big ruckus. By then I had called the police. The police arrived and it all went quiet."
Mr Knight said the argument was "a bit of a scuffle, a bit of pushing and shoving and yelling".
The man died shortly after police arrived, and his family were there while ambulance officers were attempting to resuscitate him.
The body was removed at 2.45pm yesterday, leaving the road empty except for a single bouquet of flowers left by the family.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10369250
Waihi beach death a tragedy, say police
20.02.06 1.00pm
The man who died in the small Bay of Plenty seaside town of Waihi Beach during the weekend was staying with friends and family after a wedding.
Police said it ended in tragedy early on Sunday morning when the Hamilton man died probably from an injury to the back of the head.
Police said today it appeared no one wanted to kill him and the incident was "a bloody tragedy" after a minor scuffle.
The man, in his 30s, probably fell and struck his head after a minor fight in Fyfe Street at the surf lifesaving club end of the town.
Police said his name was likely to be released later today and a post mortem examination was expected to give police an indication of how he died.
Sergeant Rex Knight said police believed he had died as a result of an injury to the back of the head. " That is crucial to our inquiry, how he actually got that."
He said the theory the man fell backwards and injured his head after he was hit during a minor scuffle was "pretty much on the mark.
"We need to look at the circumstances of that scuffle, who was involved and if there was a causal link."
However, he said it was still a homicide inquiry and the death was unexplained.
Mr Knight said police were investigating the involvement of a paintball gun but that happened some time before the incident which led to the man's death and was probably not a big factor.
He said the Waihi Beach community had been "absolutely great.
"We have been able to mop it up and get to a stage where hopefully by the end of the day we know where we are going," Mr Knight said.
No charges had yet been laid over the incident.
- NZPA
WTF :shock: what with all the post's think most people will have gotten the point by now that the paint ball gun wasn't in direct relation to the death :wink:
I hope everyone has found these posts helpful for tracking the development of the case.
Well considering the headline in the herald... we get it.. but when I was at work all I heard today was "did you hear of the guy who got killed playing paintball"....
um, yeah they have repeated every thing at least 3 fold.....
hmm I thinks some one is tryn to increase there div Rating....
Yeah, i got barraged with questions today too. I managed to persuade everyone that the very idea of a paintball pellet to the back of the head killing someone was preposterous. But obviously New Zealand work places and schools dont all have p.ball players in their midst.
i would add my word of caution to anyone posting in here too, to do so discretely.
anything fired may not have been a paintball.
I how for a fact that there are a range of sweets that have a similar size to paintballs (got annoyed with people stealing my tangy fruits, put a layer of paintballs on top, stopped the problem). it would not be unreasonable to expect a 'tangy fruit' type object fired out of an un-chronographed (ie hot) gun to do some serious damage.
Steven
I Heard people, freeze up there paint and it can go straight through corogated iron... That could probably kill... seee http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunting-shooting/Paintball/auction-48007881.htm ... seee
Mr Low... probably not the best way to be exercising discretion ;-)
Yet more proof that any paintball legislation must apply only to people firing paintballs (following th emanufacturers instructions), and specallly designed subsitutes (reballs). firing other things should kick it straight into the 'arse kicked' area of the law and penalties
S
the man wasnt killed from the paintball but the paint hit im around the time he died
...
if u no wat i mean
Yet more proof that any paintball legislation must apply only to people firing paintballs (following th emanufacturers instructions), and specallly designed subsitutes (reballs). firing other things should kick it straight into the 'arse kicked' area of the law and penalties
S
Defeats the purpose of legislation then doesnt' it.
Firing other things at people is already illegal, would come under assault or assault with a deadly weapon. No need to add an extra layer of legislation when it is already covered adequately under existing legislation.
dreadpiratepiggy
03-03-2006, 20:59
Cheers Mike, it has been useful. Certainly I've had it in both ears from everyone at work, from clients, in fact anyone who knows I play, about "the guy who got killed by a paintball gun". I've lost count of the times I've had to point out the unlikelihood of the marker being the COD, but I hope the paper so keen to lay the blame in the first instance can now print the rest of the facts.
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