Camouflage for woodsball/milsim

[minerug]

Hey guys. I'd be interested to know your opinions on what camouflages are good, what ones you use and what ones you want. I haven't been paintballing for ages, so I'm a bit behind on seeing what people are using.

As a camouflage designer I've a good idea of all the science and suchlike behind DPM, flecktarn etc, but the real world is different than theories and science :gorilla:


PS. ATACS (If you have heard of it) is a load of s***

[legionaire]

I find Marpat and Flectarn good in the summer and British DPM in winter . Tigerstripe is still effective

[Phoenix]

Multicam in summer, and Brit/NZ DPM in Winter.

[minerug]

Multicam in summer, and Brit/NZ DPM in Winter.
How do you find multicam in really bushy areas? Quite frankly, I'm skeptical of the whole multicam bandwagon

[legionaire]

I personally think multicam is for arid regions too pale for NZ conditions .. "Rhodesian" if you can find some is some of the best all conditions camo

Also like the French lizard designs that they used in indochina and a desert variant in Algeria and later Iraq

Cadpat and Russian woodland are also some great summer flage

[minerug]

I personally think multicam is for arid regions too pale for NZ conditions .. "Rhodesian" if you can find some is some of the best all conditions camo

Also like the French lizard designs that they used in indochina and a desert variant in Algeria and later Iraq

Cadpat and Russian woodland are also some great summer flage

I'm with you there. I know where to get some rhodesian printed fabric, but the buggers only do 2000m minimums.
If you are interested in collecting camouflage uniforms, check out camouflagesociety.org

[legionaire]

already there

[minerug]

lol! Username?

[legionaire]

nzlegionaire


My dad was Grey Scouts Rhodesian army and My uncle C squadron Rhod SAS so camo and militeria in the blood

[minerug]

Wow! Damn cool

[Jamie Innes]

Terrain always plays a big part.

- Pine forest or similar forest with a lot of tree trunks, and hunting camo, ala realtree hardwoods will be best.
- Anything with lots of green leaves... then any woodland pattern is fine, especially stuff like dpm, marpat, cadpat and so on.
- Open grassland???? Here's where it gets seriously tricky....

I honestly think multicam or khaki is best, or anything predominantly light brown.

Just look through the 460x Dry Creek 2011 photos and you will see that in open grassland, anything dark sticks out like dogs balls and anything light coloured like multicam blends better.

And here's the kicker. Because of this, I think multicam is the better overall choice. Why?

Overall, darker environments like native bush, vegetation etc will match/hide a light coloured camo much better than a light environment will match/hide dark coloured camo. To see evidence of this,

Just do some image searches for people wearing multicam in a jungle vs people wearing dpms in the middle of a paddock. The darker environment, ie- the jungle, wherby lesser sunlight actually gets in and EVERYTHING is darker, means that ANY camouflage appears to be darker and thus match the environment.

Light and colour plays a much bigger part than actual pattern.

[legionaire]

Can you post a link Jimbo and bring those photos or the Dry creek thread over to this forum. It is the SI premier woodsball event and huge fun. If you are free over that weekend I would suggest looking for some cheap flights and getting to it

[Phoenix]

Multicam don't really work to good unless you are in like a sand based pine forest or something. I like the look of it but. It has been a while since I have properly worn it as well.

I am a big fan of NZ/Brit DPM. But you are right, light does play a big factor.

[moonweasel]

I have a little something for most places, depending entirely where I am, DPM, DDPM, Flecktarn and MTP, (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/sdc10619j.jpg/) (UK version of multicam)

[Reviled]

If you check out the blurb on the dyecam pattern it has some pretty interesting info and pics, when its out of the bush it looks quite desert storm, but when you put it into the jungle, it actually blends in surprisingly well. Pretty much along the same lines of what Jamie is saying.

I personally have digicam for when I go into the bush, its a more brownish digicam that I got from ebbay banned, works best in pine forrests, but still really well everywhere else!! The small dots truely do play tricks on the eyes, especially if you're moving quickly imo

linky - https://shop.dyepaintball.com/tac_asia/dyecam

[Phoenix]

Relevant:

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[legionaire]

Cadpat, Marpat and flectarn FTW

[minerug]

@Jamie Innes

I've seen some pics of MTP in the jungle and it is rubbish :witless:. The reason I'm not buying the whole multicam thing is that multicam is a low-texture pattern, thus making it useless for pretty much everything but crawling around in the desert.
Basically CADPAT (Marpat and UCP are just recolourations) works because the pattern fades out to lots of horizontal stripes, which is known in the trade as 'Symmetry axis disruption'.



@Reviled

You may be interested to know that browns and greens of the same intensity (darkness/lightness) are perceived at about 25m to be the same colour to humans, thus brown would appear to blend in with a green environment. This effect is what I'm basing one of my experimental transitional camo's on.

[legionaire]

Brown , light green , dark green and tan the basis of all good flage

[holdfasthope]

Relevant:

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Need to get me some of that Bunnycamo

[Jamie Innes]

Something quite telling about that lineup photo is the time of day. It's obviously early morning or late afternoon, you can tell due to the shadows on the ground, and in the bushes. The overall volume of sunlight at these times of day is less, which means darker colours blend better to a light environment (ie- in front of light coloured grass)

Had that lineup photo been taken at midday when the sun is highest and sunlight is at it's masimum, you'd find the darker camo would be very noticeable compared to the lighter camos... since the environment is an open one (under direct sunlight in front of something grassy).